时间
2004年7月7日（周三）下午16:00-18:00
演讲人
Bertrand Meyer（https://archive.eiffel.com/general/people/meyer/），对象技术专家，发明了Eiffel 语言和按契约设计（Design by Contract）的思想，名著《面向对象软件构造》的作者，法国工程院院士。目前，他除了担任Eiffel环境和工具开发公司ISE的CTO之外，还是爱因斯坦的母校苏黎世联邦工学院计算机科学系教授，担任软件工程项目主席，同时还在澳大利亚Monash大学任教。除了面向对象技术外，早年他还参与了Z形式规约语言的设计。他现在的兴趣主要是软件工程的中心问题：可信构件（trusted component）。
声音记录
网盘下载(54M)>>
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=71193&uk=1795750932
UMLChina早期的很多国外专家讲座是通过越洋电话举行，所以音质和后来的讲座相比稍差。
幻灯片
From Eiffel and Design by Contract to Trusted Components，下载>>
http://www.umlchina.com/chat/slide/meyerchina2004.ppt
聊天记录
(15:57:43)[*umlchina_seminar]与*befresh说:专家正在登录进来，稍等
(15:57:47)lytt与所有人说:没有声音……
(15:58:18)*caniggia15与所有人说:yeah
(15:58:22)lytt与所有人说:Yes
(15:58:24)*xjmen与所有人说:yes
(15:58:26)*床单小刀与所有人说:yeah
(15:58:31)*ccrine与所有人说:yes
(15:58:56)*befresh与[*umlchina_seminar]说:好，谢谢！
(16:00:04)*live1024与所有人说:Is this lecture with A/V
(16:00:17)[*umlchina_seminar]与*befresh说:专家不在自己的办公室，正在旅途中，网络比较慢，请稍等
(16:00:25)*biffi与所有人说:yes
(16:00:27)[*umlchina_seminar]与*befresh说:今天没有视频
(16:00:38)*live1024与所有人说:OK~
(16:00:42)*xjmen与[*umlchina_seminar]说:who is mr.Bertrand Meyer?
(16:00:49)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/download.htm下载资料
(16:00:59)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:Bertrand Meyer。对象技术大师，发明了Eiffel 语言和按契约设计（Design by Contract）的思想，名著《面向对象软件构造》的作者
(16:01:01)*床单小刀与所有人说:down
(16:01:18)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:爱因斯坦母校苏黎世联邦工学院计算机科学系教授
(16:01:26)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:今天早上他刚乘火车从苏黎世到达德国的卡尔斯鲁厄，在那里为我们做讲座
(16:01:26)*xjmen与[*umlchina_seminar]说:i want to know his ID here?
(16:01:30)*befresh与[*umlchina_seminar]说:《Design by Contract》非常好，对我的帮助很大
(16:02:31)cwang@e5与所有人说:yes
(16:02:42)lanbinvivy与[*umlchina_seminar]说:只有音频？？可恨我的声卡！！！
(16:02:43)*床单小刀与所有人说:没有啊
(16:02:45)cwang@e5与*biffi说:it's me
(16:02:49)cwang@e5与*biffi说:how are you
(16:03:02)*live1024与所有人说:How much time is needed before professor comes
(16:03:22)*alexe_hui与所有人说:hello
(16:03:39)*床单小刀与*umlchina2说:声音好不连贯阿
(16:03:50)*xjmen与所有人说:prof. meyer isn't here?
(16:04:06)cwang@e5与*biffi说:we are waiting for Meyer
(16:05:07)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:wait a minutes...
(16:05:10)cwang@e5与sealw说:hi sealw
(16:05:12)lytt与所有人说:Just waiting for Mr Meyer's voice
(16:05:14)cwang@e5与sealw说:I'm Miracle
(16:05:19)cwang@e5与sealw说:how are you
(16:05:22)sealw与所有人说:good
(16:05:51)sealw与cwang@e5说:hehe
(16:05:58)*caniggia15与VoiceOfProfessor说:怎么没声啊？？
(16:06:12)freewind与所有人说:M2,I hear nothing
(16:06:23)*werewolflj与所有人说:M2
(16:06:31)*床单小刀与*umlchina2说:me too
(16:06:43)freewind与所有人说:ok now, but too low
(16:07:01)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:再等一下
(16:07:03)sealw与cwang@e5说:声音似乎很小
(16:07:05)*alexe_hui与所有人说:pls test again
(16:07:34)freewind与所有人说:louder now, but not enough
(16:07:56)sealw与cwang@e5说:还不够大
(16:07:58)*befresh与所有人说:对
(16:08:00)勇敢在心与所有人说:足够大了
(16:08:05)*床单小刀与*umlchina2说:比较大了
(16:08:07)*caniggia15与[*umlchina_seminar]说:可以了
(16:08:16)*werewolflj与所有人说:JUST SO SO
(16:08:17)delson与所有人说:行了
(16:08:20)*ccrine与所有人说:you can adjust your voice
(16:08:22)*bbmud与所有人说:声音很大，但不连续
(16:08:27)*live1024与所有人说:OK,i can here the sound
(16:08:38)*alexe_hui与所有人说:ok,the sound is good
(16:08:42)*live1024与所有人说:And When to start:)
(16:08:48)lytt与所有人说:可以开始了没？
(16:08:49)cwang@e5与sealw说:When should we start?
(16:09:03)cwang@e5与所有人说:when should we start?
(16:09:04)sealw与cwang@e5说:i don't know
(16:09:16)sealw与cwang@e5说:seems waiting
(16:09:24)*flybean与所有人说:started?
(16:09:47)*live1024与所有人说:Still Waiting;)~~
(16:09:58)sealw与cwang@e5说:好小声音的歌
(16:10:22)cwang@e5与所有人说:you should turn your speaker .. louder
(16:10:34)sealw与cwang@e5说:最大了
(16:10:45)cwang@e5与所有人说:then you should buy a new one
(16:10:57)cwang@e5与所有人说:why's meyer
(16:11:03)cwang@e5与所有人说:we can not wait to much time
(16:11:06)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:正在解决问题
(16:11:18)*live1024与所有人说:Fix What problem?
(16:11:18)cwang@e5与所有人说:what's the matter with meyer?
(16:11:23)*live1024与所有人说:Micohone?Net?
(16:11:38)cwang@e5与所有人说:the network is down from meyer's side?
(16:11:43)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:大家再等一会
(16:11:48)*live1024与所有人说:-_-||
(16:11:50)*live1024与所有人说:OK
(16:13:07)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:The voice is OK
(16:13:18)[*umlchina_seminar]与所有人说:开始了
(16:13:42)*live1024与所有人说:Yes,But Still Not catch professor in time
(16:14:03)lanbinvivy与*live1024说:Why?
(16:14:11)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:slide 2
(16:15:01)*flybean与[*umlchina_seminar]说:where is the ppt? )
(16:15:50)*flf811124与dcy_vickie说:Ok?
(16:16:00)*werewolflj与所有人说:no sound~~~
(16:16:21)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:sorry，just had a break
(16:16:35)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:slide3
(16:16:44)*flybean与所有人说:excuse me, where is the ppt?
(16:17:02)*live1024与所有人说::)~No ppt
(16:17:58)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:slide6
(16:18:23)sealw与cwang@e5说:声音效果怎样?
(16:18:33)cwang@e5与所有人说:GOOD
(16:18:33)sealw与cwang@e5说:我基本没法听
(16:18:41)cwang@e5与所有人说:bahaha
(16:18:58)sealw与*flybean说:yes
(16:19:07)sealw与*flybean说:我基本没法听
(16:19:13)sealw与*flybean说:声音效果不好
(16:19:20)*xjmen与[*umlchina_seminar]说:以后有录音下载吧？
(16:19:21)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:slide7
(16:19:30)hefeng与所有人说:听不见啊
(16:20:30)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/download.htm下在幻灯
(16:20:41)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:声音好一点了没有？
(16:20:48)*xjmen与[*umlchina_seminar]说:OK
(16:20:53)*床单小刀与*umlchina2说:OK
(16:21:05)cwang@e5与所有人说:ok
(16:21:15)*xjmen与所有人说:slide8
(16:25:18)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:slide10
(16:25:24)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:11
(16:27:06)sealw与[*umlchina_seminar]说:Ok
(16:27:07)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:12
(16:27:25)sealw与*flybean说:不要说无关的话
(16:28:42)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:14
(16:29:13)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:15
(16:29:28)sealw与cwang@e5说:你们的团队听得如何?
(16:29:46)cwang@e5与所有人说:I think not very well...
(16:29:58)cwang@e5与所有人说:because of the language
(16:29:59)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:17
(16:30:00)cwang@e5与所有人说::)
(16:30:34)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:18
(16:30:36)sealw与cwang@e5说:你做点翻译工作?
(16:30:48)cwang@e5与所有人说:....
(16:31:56)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:19
(16:33:52)lytt与所有人说:20
(16:36:15)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:23
(16:37:15)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:24
(16:37:56)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:25
(16:38:27)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:27
(16:39:11)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:28，29，30
(16:39:19)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:31，32
(16:39:34)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:34
(16:39:57)lytt与所有人说:so quickly
(16:40:04)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:35
(16:40:31)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:38
(16:42:02)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:39
(16:42:09)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:40
(16:42:49)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:back to 32
(16:43:00)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:33 sorry
(16:43:09)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:页码指幻灯片上的页码，不是pdf文件页码
(16:44:12)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:41
(16:45:16)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:42
(16:45:30)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:43，44
(16:45:42)*alexe_hui与所有人说:11
(16:45:47)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:47
(16:47:21)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:back to 47
(16:49:10)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:49
(16:49:37)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:50
(16:50:31)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:just a minute
(16:51:29)lytt与所有人说:中场休息ing
(16:51:36)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:：）
(16:51:37)cwang@e5与所有人说:......
(16:51:57)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:51
(16:52:27)*xjmen与所有人说:？
(16:52:59)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:go on again
(16:53:15)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:51
(16:53:19)cwang@e5与所有人说:fine
(16:53:33)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:54
(16:53:48)UMLStyle与所有人说:bao dao
(16:54:26)[VoiceOfProfessor]与UMLStyle说:请打开语音。讲座已经开始了 )
(16:54:45)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:59
(16:54:55)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:跳到59
(16:55:41)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:60
(16:56:21)blue sky与所有人说:有没有人在啊？
(16:56:32)cwang@e5与所有人说:we're all here..
(16:57:07)[VoiceOfProfessor]与blue sky说:请打开语音。讲座已经开始了。)
(16:57:14)blue sky与cwang@e5说:不会吧你用英语？？？！！！
(16:57:40)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:64
(16:57:53)cwang@e5与所有人说:I have to leave now, sorry
(16:58:22)cwang@e5与所有人说:bye all
(16:59:49)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:67
(17:00:14)lzhyltr与所有人说:ppt在哪里？
(17:00:34)*live1024与所有人说:http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/download.htm
(17:00:58)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:69
(17:01:27)lzhyltr与所有人说:没有呀？！
(17:01:52)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:70
(17:01:56)*umlchina_seminar与[VoiceOfProfessor]说:http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/download.htm，下载幻灯
(17:02:14)lzhyltr与所有人说:没有！！！
(17:02:58)lzhyltr与所有人说:2004年7月7日（周三）下午16:00-18:00--Bertrand Meyer--"面向对象软件构造"讲座，幻灯稍后提供下载
(17:04:02)lzhyltr与所有人说:我找到了，多谢！
(17:04:19)lytt与所有人说:http://webseminar3.unix160.cn4e.com/webseminar/meyer.pdf
(17:04:49)*live1024与所有人说:Thx Professor,Time for me to leave
(17:05:20)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:74
(17:05:28)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:75
(17:07:32)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:77
(17:08:10)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:有声音吗？
(17:08:44)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:能听到吗？请给个回应
(17:08:57)lzhyltr与所有人说:有
(17:09:06)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:好的谢谢！
(17:09:31)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:79
(17:09:47)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:80
(17:10:16)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:conclude now
(17:10:24)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:81
(17:10:39)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:82
(17:11:32)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:bk to81
(17:11:58)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:94
(17:12:09)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:jump to 94
(17:13:14)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:96
(17:13:43)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:97
(17:13:59)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:98
(17:14:59)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:100
(17:15:24)*umlchina_seminar与所有人说://ADMIN1
(17:15:33)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:102
(17:15:44)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:103
(17:15:52)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:106
(17:16:11)*balto与所有人说:105
(17:16:12)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:105，bk
(17:16:44)*umlchina_seminar与所有人说://ADMIN1
(17:16:45)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:98,back
(17:17:09)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:107,back
(17:17:15)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:109
(17:17:39)*ccrine与所有人说:后面会有这次讲座的翻译吗？
(17:18:41)*balto与所有人说:有录音就好办
(17:19:15)lytt与所有人说:*有翻译就好办了
(17:19:16)*balto与所有人说:112
(17:19:24)*xjmen与所有人说:他说的网址有记下的嘛
(17:19:27)*ccrine与所有人说:我建议听完之后大家讨论讨论吧
(17:19:32)*balto与所有人说:113
(17:20:47)[VoiceOfProfessor]与所有人说:114
(17:20:48)*balto与所有人说:114
(17:21:07)*balto与所有人说:115
(17:27:43)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:下面开始提问
(17:28:12)lzhyltr与所有人说:thks, VoiceOfProfessor
(17:28:34)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:请大家把问题发上来
(17:28:52)*xjmen与所有人说:erhadfadf 我从那里能够获得 关于 Component Quality Model的更多资料
(17:29:34)*befresh与VoiceOfProfessor说:微型容器(Spring、PicoContainer等)对面向对象软件构造有何影响？
(17:29:57)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:回答xjmen
(17:31:19)*ccrine与所有人说:design by contract是不是一种介于计算机语言和现实问题的中间的一种描述方式
(17:31:51)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:请大家用英语提问
(17:32:21)VoiceOfProfessor与[*umlchina_seminar]说:话筒 )
(17:32:22)*xjmen与所有人说:我可以发邮件给他是吧
(17:32:48)*ccrine与所有人说:what is professor's email?
(17:32:48)*xjmen与所有人说:我刚才被叫开了？
(17:34:35)*xjmen与所有人说:[email protected]
(17:36:15)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:answer ccrine
(17:36:41)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:for the time saving，please send the questions in
(17:36:47)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:in English
(17:38:12)*xjmen与所有人说:can i send email to [email protected] for asking more questions?
(17:38:15)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:any more questions?
(17:39:10)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:answering xjmen,
(17:40:24)*xjmen与所有人说:no
(17:40:51)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:On -the Component Quality Model:
(17:41:04)*befresh与VoiceOfProfessor说:what effect lightweight container(pico or spring etc.) is associated with OO construct?
(17:41:06)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:http://www.inf.ethz.ch/~meyer/publications/ieee/trusted-icse.pdf
(17:41:38)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:and other papers at http://se.inf.ethz.ch
(17:43:21)*xjmen与所有人说:is finished?
(17:44:27)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:因为教授无法登录，所以大家的问题要通过别的方式传送，所以请耐心等待
(17:44:54)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:大家只管提问题
(17:45:25)*xjmen与所有人说:i have to leave now ;(
(17:45:45)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:他回答ccrine的问题：Design by Contract applies both to the
(17:46:13)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:escription of external problems (as in the example of VAT, TANK etc.) and to the specification
(17:46:19)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:questions can go on
(17:46:34)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:of programs. It is also a particularly useful technique to make the *correspondence* between the
(17:46:53)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:between the external reality and the programming solution.
(17:49:00)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:how many years have you been researching
(17:49:09)VoiceOfProfessor与所有人说:the DBC
(17:49:10)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:回答[email protected]：
(17:49:21)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:Definitely. I think Eiffel is a great tool for people who want to
(17:49:36)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:high-quality software faster than the rest. It's a competitive advantage
(17:50:07)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:Also, the quality of education
(17:50:15)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:in China is very good, which gives the Chinese an advantage in mastering
(17:50:28)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:the abstraction techniques that go well with Eiffel.
(17:51:04)[*umlchina_seminar]与VoiceOfProfessor说:没有问题我们就结束，谢谢大家！
(17:55:44)*befresh与VoiceOfProfessor说:thanks professor
(17:55:52)*befresh与VoiceOfProfessor说:thanks UMLChina