时间
2006年5月23日（周二）晚上19:00-21:00
演讲人
Jon Kern，敏捷宣言的作者之一，他曾在TogetherSoft公司（UML工具Together的开发商，2002年被Borland收购）工作，对TogetherSoft公司早期的成功作出了主要贡献，并和Peter Coad一起写了《Java Design》一书。Jon有超过15年的经验，研发领域包括飞机发动机、实时飞行模拟器、IBM的制造系统...等等。Jon现在在Compuware公司就职。Compuware是著名MDA工具OptimalJ的开发厂商。
声音记录
网盘下载(70M)：http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=73625&uk=1795750932
UMLChina早期的很多专家讲座是通过越洋电话举行，所以音质和后来的讲座相比稍差。
幻灯片
Pragmatic Model-Driven Architecture，下载：http://umlchina.com/chat/slide/Kern_Jon_PragmaticModelDrivenArchitecture.zip
聊天记录
(2006.05.23)(18:52:15)jonkern与所有人说:good evening (morning for me ;=)
(2006.05.23)(18:52:29)*skysoftboy与所有人说:yeah..you download the powerpoint??
(2006.05.23)(18:52:41)briskman enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:52:50)jsqcomputer与所有人说:hello
(2006.05.23)(18:52:52)*skysoftboy与jonkern说:why morning for you?
(2006.05.23)(18:53:01)jonkern与所有人说:east coast of USA
(2006.05.23)(18:53:07)*umlchina_seminar与所有人说:幻灯下载：http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/jonkernnews.htm
(2006.05.23)(18:53:08)*umlchina2与所有人说:Let us welcome Professor Jon Kern. He has logged in.
(2006.05.23)(18:53:12)briskman与所有人说:test info
(2006.05.23)(18:53:15)mycyberh与*umlchina2说:hi
(2006.05.23)(18:53:15)pinkstone enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:53:18)*skysoftboy与所有人说:oh ,welcome
(2006.05.23)(18:53:23)jonkern与所有人说:near philadelphia (100km north)
(2006.05.23)(18:53:31)*rse43与所有人说:hi,Kern
(2006.05.23)(18:53:55)*skysoftboy与所有人说:welcome MR KERN
(2006.05.23)(18:54:03)jonkern与所有人说:please, just Jon will be okay ;=)
(2006.05.23)(18:54:19)jonkern与所有人说:my reply was to the "Professor Jon Kern"
(2006.05.23)(18:54:20)pinkstone与所有人说:welcome
(2006.05.23)(18:54:21)*rse43与所有人说:ok,Jon
(2006.05.23)(18:54:32)*umlchina2 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:54:49)umlchina2_689 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:55:04)briskman enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:55:29)jonkern与所有人说:please feel free to give me "speed" feedback.
(2006.05.23)(18:55:33)*skysoftboy与所有人说:there is no powerpoint to download
(2006.05.23)(18:55:36)umlchina2_736 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:55:45)umlchina_semina_745 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:55:48)*skysoftboy与所有人说:Ok noproblem
(2006.05.23)(18:55:51)jonkern与所有人说:if you want me to slow down, please tell me. or to speed up ;=))
(2006.05.23)(18:55:55)jonkern与所有人说:i sent a pdf
(2006.05.23)(18:56:07)jonkern与所有人说:two actually
(2006.05.23)(18:56:11)jonkern与所有人说:one with notes
(2006.05.23)(18:56:12)*umlchina2 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:56:19)*skysoftboy与所有人说:oh,thanks very much
(2006.05.23)(18:57:19)mycyberh与mellon说:not so much persons
(2006.05.23)(18:57:36)jonkern与所有人说:what role do most people in your group on software projects?
(2006.05.23)(18:58:08)*skysoftboy与所有人说:programming....SA...
(2006.05.23)(18:58:15)*umlchina2与所有人说:大家听到了吗？Jon开始了
(2006.05.23)(18:58:20)*skysoftboy与所有人说:no
(2006.05.23)(18:58:23)*活的比狗累与所有人说:tingdaole
(2006.05.23)(18:58:28)mellon与所有人说:no
(2006.05.23)(18:58:36)jsqcomputer与所有人说:no
(2006.05.23)(18:58:39)*skysoftboy与所有人说:i can hear nothing
(2006.05.23)(18:58:41)briskman与所有人说:yes i can
(2006.05.23)(18:58:44)jsqcomputer enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:58:45)mycyberh与mellon说:can not hearing
(2006.05.23)(18:58:51)mellon与所有人说:yeah
(2006.05.23)(18:58:57)*skysoftboy与所有人说:what's wrong?
(2006.05.23)(18:59:02)gmhis enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:59:11)*skysoftboy与所有人说:let me try it again....
(2006.05.23)(18:59:32)*skysoftboy enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(18:59:33)gmhis与所有人说:HELLO
(2006.05.23)(18:59:44)umlchina_semina_745与所有人说:要是听不见声音，请手工安装插件，http://www.bliao.com/help/Bluesky.exe，讲座室帮助：
(2006.05.23)(18:59:55)umlchina_semina_745与所有人说:http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/cn_guide.htm
(2006.05.23)(18:59:57)*umlchina2与所有人说:slide2
(2006.05.23)(19:00:00)*skysoftboy与所有人说:oh yeah i can hear he
(2006.05.23)(19:00:09)*skysoftboy与所有人说:reset
(2006.05.23)(19:00:21)ss enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:00:35)pinkstone enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:00:37)*umlchina2与所有人说:slide3
(2006.05.23)(19:00:39)boonezhang enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:00:47)briskman与所有人说:tell us which doc?
(2006.05.23)(19:01:13)lynn_inpur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:01:19)*skysoftboy与所有人说:找不到PDF...啊....
(2006.05.23)(19:01:20)*umlchina2与所有人说:please download the ppt at http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/jonkernnews.htm
(2006.05.23)(19:01:27)*skysoftboy与所有人说:OK..
(2006.05.23)(19:03:32)mellon_212 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:04:22)cheatlove enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:04:24)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:05:37)*rse43 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:05:48)lynn_inspur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:06:18)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:06:22)cheatlove与所有人说:什么时候开始啊
(2006.05.23)(19:06:22)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:06:39)*活的比狗累与所有人说:刚刚开始
(2006.05.23)(19:06:42)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:06:45)*umlchina2与所有人说:已经开始了呀
(2006.05.23)(19:06:53)*umlchina2与cheatlove说:是语音的
(2006.05.23)(19:07:21)aaaaaa enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:07:26)cheatlove enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:08:26)eeeeee enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:08:26)*skysoftboy与所有人说:OK THANKS..
(2006.05.23)(19:08:29)lynn_inspur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:08:39)*umlchina2与cheatlove说:PDF page7
(2006.05.23)(19:09:01)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:09:05)*umlchina2与所有人说:现在讲到了第7页
(2006.05.23)(19:10:13)*haifeng1928 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:10:25)lynn_inspur与所有人说:没有音啊
(2006.05.23)(19:11:05)yfghdfg23475 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:11:18)mindyqq enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:11:22)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:11:37)*djfish enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:11:42)joe enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:11:50)umlchina_semina_745与所有人说:要是听不见声音，请手工安装插件，http://www.bliao.com/help/Bluesky.exe
(2006.05.23)(19:11:54)lynn_inspur_714 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:12:27)*haifeng1928与所有人说:怎么听不到声音？？？
(2006.05.23)(19:12:47)*umlchina2与所有人说:page9
(2006.05.23)(19:12:51)hefeng enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:13:26)briskman与yfghdfg23475说:what's means?
(2006.05.23)(19:13:41)yl_tfc enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:13:51)hefeng enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:13:57)bcdcorn enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:15:18)haifeng1928_918 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:15:41)lynn_inspur_941 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:16:10)bcdcorn与所有人说:开始了么？
(2006.05.23)(19:16:20)*umlchina2与bcdcorn说:开始啦
(2006.05.23)(19:16:30)bcdcorn与所有人说:哦
(2006.05.23)(19:16:50)bcdcorn enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:18:16)cheatlove enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:18:57)lynn_inspur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:19:36)gmhis enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:20:06)*umlchina2与所有人说:page11
(2006.05.23)(19:22:02)lynn_inspur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:22:05)joe enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:24:22)jsqcomputer enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:25:35)lynn_inspur与所有人说:怎么装了插件还是没有声音啊
(2006.05.23)(19:25:57)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:26:01)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:26:03)mycyberh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:26:46)*umlchina2与所有人说:page12
(2006.05.23)(19:26:53)fdxia enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:29:06)cheatlove enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:29:45)*umlchina2与所有人说:大家如果有问题可以先写出来，一会儿有1个小时的Q&A时间
(2006.05.23)(19:31:11)gg enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:37:08)jsqcomputer enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:38:22)*umlchina2与所有人说:page14
(2006.05.23)(19:39:56)fdxia enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:40:21)fdxia enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:41:42)yinsha enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:42:42)joinuster enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:44:00)之萍 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:45:26)fg enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:45:54)fdxia enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:49:21)之萍 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:50:26)lynn_inspur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:51:43)*umlchina_seminar enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:51:48)hnic enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:57:08)lynn_inspur enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:57:25)*umlchina_seminar enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(19:59:38)gsmysx enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:01:49)gsmysx enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:04:27)gsmysx与所有人说:有声音吗?
(2006.05.23)(20:04:44)jonkern与所有人说:page 19
(2006.05.23)(20:05:06)*umlchina2与jonkern说:Thanks
(2006.05.23)(20:05:27)*umlchina2与所有人说:20now
(2006.05.23)(20:06:31)foxware enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:06:45)gsmysx与所有人说:还要点击全双工吗
(2006.05.23)(20:07:05)jonkern与所有人说:21
(2006.05.23)(20:07:06)gsmysx与所有人说:谢谢
(2006.05.23)(20:10:15)*rse43 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:12:22)jonkern与所有人说:22
(2006.05.23)(20:12:52)jonkern与所有人说:23
(2006.05.23)(20:14:21)jonkern与所有人说:24
(2006.05.23)(20:15:16)jonkern与所有人说:25
(2006.05.23)(20:15:18)*phoenix_z enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:16:00)*phoenix_z enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:19:31)xxkwh enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:20:05)jonkern与所有人说:27
(2006.05.23)(20:20:10)gsmysx enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:20:15)*rui0354 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:20:20)jojo enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:20:34)*rui0354 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:21:08)gsmysx enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:21:25)jonkern与所有人说:28
(2006.05.23)(20:21:56)jojo enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:22:42)*umlchina2与所有人说:29
(2006.05.23)(20:23:29)jonkern与所有人说:31
(2006.05.23)(20:23:46)jojo与所有人说:hi
(2006.05.23)(20:24:09)jonkern与所有人说:32
(2006.05.23)(20:24:42)*rui0354 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:26:34)jonkern与所有人说:34
(2006.05.23)(20:26:46)jonkern与所有人说:35
(2006.05.23)(20:27:06)jonkern与所有人说:36
(2006.05.23)(20:27:26)xxkwh与所有人说:thanks
(2006.05.23)(20:29:07)jonkern与所有人说:40
(2006.05.23)(20:30:12)jonkern与所有人说:41
(2006.05.23)(20:30:54)jonkern与所有人说:42
(2006.05.23)(20:33:30)jonkern与所有人说:questions?
(2006.05.23)(20:33:42)jonkern与所有人说:i hope i spoke clearly
(2006.05.23)(20:33:50)*skysoftboy与所有人说:ok,thank you very much.Mr Kern...
(2006.05.23)(20:34:03)gsmysx与所有人说:but
(2006.05.23)(20:34:07)*umlchina_seminar enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:34:54)*umlchina2与所有人说:大家请提问题
(2006.05.23)(20:34:56)jonkern与所有人说:you can ask in chinese and sicilia will tell me
(2006.05.23)(20:35:09)*umlchina2与所有人说:大家可以中文提问
(2006.05.23)(20:35:54)*skysoftboy与所有人说:Mr kern.Can you talk something about SOA and MDA?
(2006.05.23)(20:37:45)hefeng enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:39:03)*skysoftboy与所有人说:Domain Model is most important in MDA? and how can we build the Domain model..thank you..
(2006.05.23)(20:39:47)jonkern与所有人说:uml modeling tool
(2006.05.23)(20:40:53)anonymous enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:41:20)*skysoftboy与所有人说:Mr kern,what you talk today is very good for system analist...
(2006.05.23)(20:41:53)jonkern与所有人说:okay
(2006.05.23)(20:41:55)jonkern与所有人说:but?
(2006.05.23)(20:42:07)*skysoftboy与所有人说:what?
(2006.05.23)(20:42:13)wugang enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:42:57)jonkern与所有人说:metamodeling is also done with uml
(2006.05.23)(20:43:17)*skysoftboy与所有人说:to make good relationship with the coustomer is very important.
(2006.05.23)(20:43:48)jonkern与所有人说:especially when things don't go well ;=
(2006.05.23)(20:44:18)*skysoftboy与所有人说:which UML Modeling tool do you think is useful...ok, thanks...
(2006.05.23)(20:44:32)jonkern与所有人说:depends...
(2006.05.23)(20:44:43)爱神 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:44:54)jonkern与所有人说:optimalj has magicdraw with it
(2006.05.23)(20:45:08)*skysoftboy与所有人说:sure.
(2006.05.23)(20:45:08)jonkern与所有人说:there are many choices...
(2006.05.23)(20:45:20)jonkern与所有人说:i still like together for code sync moldeing
(2006.05.23)(20:47:09)*skysoftboy与所有人说:oh,yeah,Mr Kern,can you talk us something about your life&work in Together?
(2006.05.23)(20:51:07)jonkern与所有人说:how many practice agile?
(2006.05.23)(20:51:36)*umlchina2与所有人说:jon问大家有那些人用敏捷方法开发？
(2006.05.23)(20:52:05)jonkern与所有人说:feel free to contact me at [email protected]
(2006.05.23)(20:52:21)*skysoftboy与所有人说:OK...
(2006.05.23)(20:52:22)芬 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:52:22)jonkern与所有人说:http://blogs.compuware.com/cs/blogs/jkern/
(2006.05.23)(20:52:54)*skysoftboy与所有人说:i have gone to there ....
(2006.05.23)(20:53:44)dsir enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:54:27)*skysoftboy与所有人说:thank you very much Mr Kern...welcome to come here again..next time i'll understand well....
(2006.05.23)(20:54:47)*umlchina_seminar enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:55:08)*umlchina2与所有人说:Thanks a lot! Jon. Thank you for your time and getting up as early as 6:30am.
(2006.05.23)(20:55:13)jonkern与所有人说:have a good evening!
(2006.05.23)(20:55:25)*skysoftboy与所有人说:thank you....
(2006.05.23)(20:55:34)*skysoftboy与所有人说:good luck.
(2006.05.23)(20:55:44)wugang与所有人说:thanks
(2006.05.23)(20:55:45)芬 enter this room.
(2006.05.23)(20:57:03)jonkern与所有人说:good bye and thank you for your time!
(2006.05.23)(20:57:10)*skysoftboy与所有人说:bye..
(2006.05.23)(20:57:25)*skysoftboy与所有人说:come here again next time...thanks
(2006.05.23)(20:58:16)*skysoftboy与所有人说:OK,i am going....bye everyone..
(2006.05.23)(20:58:33)*skysoftboy与所有人说:good night..
(2006.05.23)(20:58:36)mellon_212与所有人说:thanks. bye.